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-jmp-
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I'm new at having to burn images to dvds, and I did this event that I need to get 500 images on to a disc. It's soooo slow. It says there is like 30 minutes left to it.

Is there a way to speed up this process without making the images smaller and such? Sorry for the newb question.. I think it's normal to take a long time, but I don't know HOW long is normal. Is there something I should/could do to just improve my computer's overall speed or something?

[hoping the poor computer terminology is apparant and someone can help smile]
Nov 06 09 01:24 pm  Link  Quote 
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AJ Sullivan
Posts: 366

I've found getting the hell off the computer helps, but that just might be me.
Nov 06 09 01:25 pm  Link  Quote 
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Dannielle Levan
Posts: 6,697

-jmp- wrote:
I'm new at having to burn images to dvds, and I did this event that I need to get 500 images on to a disc. It's soooo slow. It says there is like 30 minutes left to it.

Is there a way to speed up this process without making the images smaller and such? Sorry for the newb question.. I think it's normal to take a long time, but I don't know HOW long is normal. Is there something I should/could do to just improve my computer's overall speed or something?

[hoping the poor computer terminology is apparant and someone can help smile]

Not unless you get a faster burner, the CD write speed has nothing to do with your actual computer's specs.

Nov 06 09 01:27 pm  Link  Quote 
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-jmp-
Posts: 60

AJ Sullivan wrote:
I've found getting the hell off the computer helps, but that just might be me.

lol True! But I'm on a laptop that will go to sleep/overheat and shut down rather quickly so I have to be here to monitor it. I just don't want to leave it and it stop within the first 50 images and I come back expecting them to be done and having to do the other 450. While I doubt keeping PS open and internet browsers open is helping the speed, I'm open to suggestions to either speed up the process or guarantee my computer will finish the task so I can leave and come back later.

Nov 06 09 01:28 pm  Link  Quote 
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-jmp-
Posts: 60

Dannielle Levan wrote:
Not unless you get a faster burner, the CD write speed has nothing to do with your actual computer's specs.

Ah. hmm See I don't know these things.

So I could go buy a[n external?] super fast burner for these large gigs then?? Because that would so come in handy..



Edit: These are only JPEGs for an event, and I don't want to think about other events/weddings/etc in which I want to offer higher quality TIFFs or something that are larger and may have 1,000 more images. :x

I'll suck it up through this burn, but trying to look for possibilities to make this easier in the future. smile

Nov 06 09 01:29 pm  Link  Quote 
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RacerXPhoto
Posts: 426

-jmp- wrote:
I'm new at having to burn images to dvds, and I did this event that I need to get 500 images on to a disc. It's soooo slow. It says there is like 30 minutes left to it.

Is there a way to speed up this process without making the images smaller and such? Sorry for the newb question.. I think it's normal to take a long time, but I don't know HOW long is normal. Is there something I should/could do to just improve my computer's overall speed or something?

[hoping the poor computer terminology is apparant and someone can help smile]

Specifics are need in order to help u
Speed of DVD burner ie: 4x, 16x, 20x
Size of the media being used ie: 4.7GB 8.5GB BluRay
Type source drive where the files are located ie:Internal HD, Ext HD, Type Interface

Nov 06 09 01:33 pm  Link  Quote 
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gzone
Posts: 889

AJ Sullivan wrote:
I've found getting the hell off the computer helps, but that just might be me.

This is true with me too let the machine do it's thing.

Nov 06 09 01:33 pm  Link  Quote 
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Memoire Studio
Posts: 238

yah..its your burner speed..

i burn my dvds in around 3-4 minutes...
Nov 06 09 01:34 pm  Link  Quote 
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-jmp-
Posts: 60

Memoire Studio wrote:
yah..its your burner speed..

i burn my dvds in around 3-4 minutes...

You can burn 3 GB in 3-4 min??

sad

Nov 06 09 01:36 pm  Link  Quote 
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Yingwah Productions
Posts: 410

The problem may be the software. Are you using actual software like Nero to burn the disc or just trying to do it through windows explorer? When you do it thru explorer or whatever windows built in burning software is, it takes a long time. unless you computer is REALLLY OLD even 4X dvd burner takes like 20 min
Nov 06 09 01:36 pm  Link  Quote 
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PhotoJoe
Posts: 815

how fast is your media your recording on?
how fast is the burner?
close all programs using memory, that means photoshop especially.
if your already burning right now at a slow speed, dont expect it to speed up, once the software pics a write speed, it wont change.
you didnt say what sotware your burning with. if its just windows built in burner then that explains most of the slowness. 
you could try zipping all the photos into one big zip file, it may speed things up a little
Nov 06 09 01:38 pm  Link  Quote 
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jimmyd
Posts: 772

If you're using a laptop and you're burning the disks while the laptop is using battery power, i.e., it's not plugged into A/C, it's gonna take way longer for those disks to burn. Leastwise, that's how it works with my laptop.
Nov 06 09 01:39 pm  Link  Quote 
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Haarvey Aardvark
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I don't want to make assumptions about what you're burning, but there is some merit to the idea of slowing down & taking less photos. That will certainly shave time off of the burning session. Save only the best images for your clients. And don't even hit the shutter release until you see something worth taking.
Nov 06 09 01:41 pm  Link  Quote 
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AJ Sullivan
Posts: 366

I would look into a solid external dvd burner. Now a days, not that expensive.
Nov 06 09 01:42 pm  Link  Quote 
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H1 Photos
Posts: 105

Most new DVD writing drives adjust their speed on the fly:  If the DVD drive sees that your hard drive is very busy, it might slow down in order to prevent DVD burn errors.  In other words, to keep from "sucking air" while they wait for the hard drive to free up some bandwidth.

In this case, I could see where you might (possibly) see a slow-down due to excessive activity on the hard drive end of things.  If you're very low on (RAM) memory, then you might be banking some data and tasks off to virtual memory ("hard drive masquerading as RAM"), which inherently slows down a lot of things.  A mechanical platter and read/write arm will never be nearly as fast as electrons zipping through a RAM chipset.

In these two ways (busying hard drives, and leaning hard on virtual memory), there could be a problem that is not specifically the DVD drive itself.

To see if there is any impact from Photoshop:  Try burning a big batch of images with Photoshop open (while you do things in PS), and burn that *same* set without PS, etc running.

If you see PS sucking down your burn speeds, and if your machine has multiple *physical* hard drives (not just partitions), you might do well to have Photoshop use a different physical hard drive as its "Scratch Disks" drive, separate from the one the images are on.  This way, PS isn't placing big demands on the hard drive that your images are on.


All that said ... I'm betting faster DVD drive might be the solution.  Burning the same batch a few times with and without PS, etc, running will tell you.
Nov 06 09 01:45 pm  Link  Quote 
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Justin Foto
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There is only so much data you can dump onto a DVD at any one time. It's limited by spin speed which is limited by mechanical properties of the disk itself. Basically, as the disk spins it heats up. If you spin it fast enough, it'll get to a temperature that will effect it's ability to store data, so the manufacturers keep the spin to just below where that would happen (given a bunch of other factors)

Blue Ray will be faster as the data is more dense so you can dump more on for a given spin rate.

Best bet is to let it go, put the coffee on and do something else while you wait.
Nov 06 09 01:47 pm  Link  Quote 
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Is photography
Posts: 1,251

you want to be at 8x

dvd burners can be had for less than $50 that do 8x, get two while your their, and put in external usb/esata case and then just plug and burn..

it's the bluray burners that are at the $200 mark these days

the drive you get on newegg will come with nero essentials edition, ot the like and will let you set the burn speed!
Nov 06 09 01:47 pm  Link  Quote 
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Timothy Nantz
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Go into MSCONFIG and turn OFF all the "fluff" you don't need...you might be surprised as to all the processes you have running & aren't even aware of it!

Be cautious however, you may disable a service that is essential to the OS, for more "how to" on this subject click below:

http://netsquirrel.com/msconfig/index.html

Also turn off the "sleep" mode, that will kill your burn whenever it kicks in & shuts your laptop down!

In short, the less stuff you have running, the more resources your computer has to doing the job at hand, in your case, burning CDs/DVDs

EDIT: Also helps out big time if you're doing editing too! Photoshop LOVES memory!!!!

Hope this helps...
Nov 06 09 01:50 pm  Link  Quote 
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IfUWant2Know
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Well, you need to change your power profile in order for your computer to stay on when you walk away. Right click on the desktop. Choose Properties. Click on Screen Saver tab. Click the Power button, and you can change your settings to give you more time before your computer goes into sleep mode. You might want to change it back later, so create a new profile.
Nov 06 09 01:52 pm  Link  Quote 
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-jmp-
Posts: 60

Thanks SO much everyone!!

I know I need to get an external burner.. I couldn't even find the DVD Burner speed I have. I found the model and tried to Google it to find the speed but couldn't find it. I closed PS but it's still as of right nowww..... on image 39 of 467. It's taking like 2 minutes PER image.. and at 467 images, I don't think I can keep the laptop on that long. I have a POS HP that is NOTORIOUS for overheating.

I am just using the Windows software to burn the images, also, so that explains the lack of speed as well.

So while I appreciate the info for future burns (external dvd burner, burning software, checking the speed of the discs themselves, closing other processes/programs, etc) I don't know how to finish THIS burn.

One thing I noticed was that copying and pasting seemed to take a LOT longer on my computer than cutting and pasting. I have to copy them, though, so I still have the files on my computer. Is there something in the actual "drag and drop" process that would make it faster that I'm overlooking???



(Thanks again for everyone's information and patience for/with me!!)
Nov 06 09 02:07 pm  Link  Quote 
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Timothy Nantz
Posts: 336

how big are these file sizes? maybe you need to scale them down a bit to help speed things up?

Here's a Google list that might can help out...good luck!

http://video.google.com/videosearch?sou … C8QqwQwCQ#

EDIT: Sounds like you may have to abort this burn & try again...I wished I had a dollar for every disc I've wasted! wink
Nov 06 09 02:19 pm  Link  Quote 
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-jmp-
Posts: 60

Timothy Nantz wrote:
how big are these file sizes? maybe you need to scale them down a bit to help speed things up?

Here's a Google list that might can help out...good luck!

http://video.google.com/videosearch?sou … C8QqwQwCQ#

EDIT: Sounds like you may have to abort this burn & try again...I wished I had a dollar for every disc I've wasted! wink

Haha, I totally had to abort and ditch that disc. I tried burning using Windows Media Player and it is going SO much faster. Whereas earlier I would have about 10 images by now, it is 90% complete, and I already burned a disc of web res files earlier in like 2 minutes.

Thanks so much EVERYONE! smile

Nov 06 09 03:23 pm  Link  Quote 
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wiseleo
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Please use the software called IMGBURN.

You will thank me for it. No crippling, blazing fast, and it tells you what the DVD burner is doing instead of showing pretty pictures. Did I mention it's free?

An external DVD burner is what I use. At 16x, the DVDs get created pretty quickly.

Also, consider resizing the images if you don't want them to be printed large without your consent. An image larger than 1920x1080 (1080P resolution) is going to get auto-resized by the person's computer anyway. 1080P is only 2MP, by the way. It'll look great on HDTV, but it'll usually (there are ways to make a good one) make a lousy large print. smile
Nov 06 09 05:07 pm  Link  Quote 
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CHLNGR
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I keep a second computer just for burning. It doesn't need to be a new, fast, expensive computer, just an old one with a good fast hard drive and a good fast burner.
This way I can let it run and go about something else on my "work" computer.
Nov 06 09 05:25 pm  Link  Quote 
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Bernie Browder
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-jmp- wrote:
I'm new at having to burn images to dvds, and I did this event that I need to get 500 images on to a disc. It's soooo slow. It says there is like 30 minutes left to it.

Is there a way to speed up this process without making the images smaller and such? Sorry for the newb question.. I think it's normal to take a long time, but I don't know HOW long is normal. Is there something I should/could do to just improve my computer's overall speed or something?

[hoping the poor computer terminology is apparant and someone can help smile]

You're gonna need a bigger boat.

Nov 06 09 05:41 pm  Link  Quote 
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Yingwah Productions
Posts: 410

-jmp- wrote:

Haha, I totally had to abort and ditch that disc. I tried burning using Windows Media Player and it is going SO much faster. Whereas earlier I would have about 10 images by now, it is 90% complete, and I already burned a disc of web res files earlier in like 2 minutes.

Thanks so much EVERYONE! smile

It's like I thought, if you buy some decent burning software you'll have alot less trouble.

If your laptop is overheating then you should take it someplace to get cleaned. My girlfriend has a cat and I have to take her computer apart and pull out a hairball big enough to choke a doberman. Make sure they take it apart to clean completely and not just blow some canned air in the vents.

Nov 07 09 01:31 am  Link  Quote 
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Lorin Edmonds
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Maybe a laptop cooler fan -- might make a difference and they are only about $15 to $20.

or rent my mechanic for the final solution
Nov 07 09 03:47 am  Link  Quote 
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hbutz New York
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wiseleo wrote:
Please use the software called IMGBURN.

+1

It's simply the best burning software for PC by a far margin.

Nov 07 09 03:48 am  Link  Quote 
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Timothy Nantz
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One other thing too...I never ever use batteries on my laptop while doing a CD/DVD burn...ever!
Nov 07 09 06:03 am  Link  Quote 
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PPTPhoto
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You've got the start of a killer port. Decide right here and now if you'll be doing photography on a continuing basis. I hope you do just so I can see more images.

If so, realize that you need to switch to MAC. Go to any seminar filled with pro shooters and the great majority will be on a MAC. Even a Laptop will work good for you as long as you move files onto DVD-s and other back up media constantly.

There will be those who throw BS and say stick with PC. It's your choice. Walk into 10 pro studios and tell me how many have PC-s vs MAC.

Invest some money in a decent computer, Photoshop etc and then charge enough for your work to pay for it. Repeat process for Cameras, lenses etc.

Just my .02

Or put all your images on a thumbdrive and take them to your local library to burn them to DVD????
Nov 07 09 06:24 am  Link  Quote 
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Yingwah Productions
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PPTPhoto wrote:
You've got the start of a killer port. Decide right here and now if you'll be doing photography on a continuing basis. I hope you do just so I can see more images.

If so, realize that you need to switch to MAC. Go to any seminar filled with pro shooters and the great majority will be on a MAC. Even a Laptop will work good for you as long as you move files onto DVD-s and other back up media constantly.

There will be those who throw BS and say stick with PC. It's your choice. Walk into 10 pro studios and tell me how many have PC-s vs MAC.

Invest some money in a decent computer, Photoshop etc and then charge enough for your work to pay for it. Repeat process for Cameras, lenses etc.

Just my .02

Or put all your images on a thumbdrive and take them to your local library to burn them to DVD????

Yeah nice way to troll a thread.

http://ronmart.blogspot.com/2009/05/top … ephen.html

"What type of computer do you used to edit your photos?
PC's dual quad core systems currently."

Nov 07 09 07:32 am  Link  Quote 
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Niche Photography
Posts: 77

I use CDburnerxp  it is free works great, alot of fellow geeks swear by it as well.  Of course, like others have said, you need a burner that can handle faster speeds as well.
Nov 07 09 07:39 am  Link  Quote 
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Ravendrive Productions
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I love imgburn,  I run windows XP in one expose spaces on my mac just to use imgburn
Nov 07 09 09:13 am  Link  Quote 
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Timothy Nantz
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Dear God why does this always happen? OS fanboys always try to turn these threads into a "mine is better than yours" drivel. Use what works for YOU. period. end of OS thread hijack.
Nov 07 09 10:34 am  Link  Quote 
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Ruben Grolet
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Got a few minutes to spare. Here is an idea for you. Go to your local WalMart. They have a Kiosk. For less than $3.00 you can burn your pics. I have burned more than 500 in minutes and been on my way. Not bad for 3 bucks and you even get a number of 4x6's with about 35 images per 4x6 (thumbnails) so that you can see what you have on the DVD or CD. Something to think about.
Nov 07 09 10:47 am  Link  Quote 
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PPTPhoto
Posts: 371

Yingwah Productions wrote:

Yeah nice way to troll a thread.

http://ronmart.blogspot.com/2009/05/top … ephen.html

"What type of computer do you used to edit your photos?
PC's dual quad core systems currently."

Not trying to troll, trying to give great advice for his future. You have anything worth a shit to say?

Nov 07 09 11:17 am  Link  Quote 
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Yingwah Productions
Posts: 410

PPTPhoto wrote:

Not trying to troll, trying to give great advice for his future. You have anything worth a shit to say?

I already answered the OPs question, coming in here spouting that Mac is better than PC has nothing to do with the topic, so i would say all the shit is falling out of your mouth.

Nov 07 09 03:03 pm  Link  Quote 
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PPTPhoto
Posts: 371

Yingwah Productions wrote:

I already answered the OPs question, coming in here spouting that Mac is better than PC has nothing to do with the topic, so i would say all the shit is falling out of your mouth.

Well aren't you just a class act! Good luck in your business, I'm guessing you'll need it............

Nov 07 09 03:37 pm  Link  Quote 
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Timothy Nantz
Posts: 336

Ruben Grolet wrote:
Got a few minutes to spare. Here is an idea for you. Go to your local WalMart. They have a Kiosk. For less than $3.00 you can burn your pics. I have burned more than 500 in minutes and been on my way. Not bad for 3 bucks and you even get a number of 4x6's with about 35 images per 4x6 (thumbnails) so that you can see what you have on the DVD or CD. Something to think about.

Well, this might be OK if you've already done your postediting and got it all transferred to whatever media you wished to use at the kiosk.

Forget it if you've shot any nudity however, Wal-Mart has the right to refuse or even report you to authorities! Anybody remember the parents who got turned in to the police for child porn after they tried getting pics printed of their child bathing?

*rolls eyes*

Nov 07 09 04:47 pm  Link  Quote 
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Carbon Decay
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takes me seconds to burn gigabytes HAHA

i write at 64x i thnk

did u redce the size?

500 x 10mb files can be intense, are they fro web use?

shrink them to 500x750pixels if its for web us
Nov 07 09 04:48 pm  Link  Quote 
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